this is work in progress or homilies or miscellaneous items
that don't warrant a page by themselves
or seem to fit better here
pending poems index
chronological order is from the bottom to the top of the page
audio files can be complemented by listening to them with the eyes closed
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if I teach it's entirely inadvertently , I just wish the tards a quick trip to hell ! : o )
if I teach it's entirely inadvertent , I just wish the tards a quick trip to hell ! : o )
if I teach it's entirely inadvertent, I just wish the tards a quick trip to hell ! : o )
if I teach it's entirely inadvertent, I just wish the tards a quick trip to hell ! :o)
if I teach it's entirely inadvertent, I just wish the tards a quick trip to hell ! :o)
zen and philosophy is the breaking of the packages we think life comes bundled in and seeing past the illusory into the true reality !
the_singular_anyone replies
words of wisdom, courtesy of the master of magic
my
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zen and philosophy is the breaking of the packages we think life comes bundled in and seeing past the illusory into the true reality !
the_singular_anyone asks/wanks
how important is tradition to zen?
...and, why ?
my
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patriarchal zen is mind to mind transmission from
this is very rare and never goes wrong
zen master transmission is certificates and nonsense and is the major factor for the collapse of zen today, puling idiots regurgitating nonsense that they think means something !
the_singular_anyone replies
[. . . .] that seems fairly magical, and thus fairly impossible
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you're a moron, repudiating the true magic and replacing it with the fake magic of the limitations of your own stupidity
if there was no magic you might as well smoke pot, drink and play games with the odd masturbatory excursion to reddit zen and think that is somehow what it and life is about !
the_singular_anyone replies
shit, dude. I come to /r/zen to discuss philosophy
if I wanted to discuss who has the most wizard levels, I've got r/dnd for that
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you have come to wank b a s i c a l l y
absolutely no knowledge or experience of zen or of any of the real philosophers like jacques derrida !
you are so self satisfied that any thing you think or say you regard as profound and not the bullshit it is and the lifetime's work the great masters and philosophers found necessary, well they are not even worth a second of your time to consider !
as I say, no magic just dumbarse tard talk !
the_singular_anyone replies
fortunately for me, I make my wisdom save against your vicious mockery, and thus take no psychic damage
and yes, I use 5th edition rules. motherfucker
my
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my god DnD has crippled you !
:o(
the_singular_anyone replies
hey man, you've got your bold text fetish, I've got d&d
everyone's got a vice here and there
my
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nah, bold text is a part of my writing skill !
you have an overwhelming life issue of a loss of any sort of intellectual reality, you think zen and philosophy is some sort of games which is a consumer slotting, zen and philosophy are full on real and require a life's full attention and work in the appropriate areas !
all you worry about is your self esteem, well you must be blind to the problems that your approach must be creating in your life !
zen and philosophy is the breaking of the packages we think life comes bundled in and seeing past the illusory into the true reality !
“ how important is tradition to zen?
...and, why ? ”
my
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patriarchal zen is mind to mind transmission from a
patriarch
this is very rare and never goes wrong
zen master transmission is certificates and nonsense and is the major factor for the collapse of zen today, puling idiots regurgitating nonsense that they think means something !
who lets go of what, you are
another of these rancid zen fakes/flakes !
stuffed up in your hubris and spewing your toxic shit everywhere !
agodoga replies
maybe you could let go of your anger for starters
how can I be toxic when the all of the anger is in your head ?
if you know what enlightenment is, why don't you tell me ?
if you don't know, how can you reproach me ?
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see you think enlightenment is some fake no anger state !
i'm telling you what enlightenment is not, it's not your fakeness and bullshit, but as usual your sort of people can't hear !
if you want to know what enlightenment is , there is no “ you ” to reproach !
what enlightenment is , is originality, when you speak and write it comes from infinity in your own experience and not the toxic repetition and regurgitation of whatever nonsense zen stories and voynichated bullshit and it is also an intelligent removal from the usual hubric human egoic nonsense
that is intelligent removal, not complete removal . . .
people here on reddit zen specialize in unintelligent aggrandizement of crazy polluting bullshit that they just spew everywhere . . .
lake
louise alberta by daniel
kent , he has other interesting photographs !
the lake louise
photo at 20 megabytes !
“ andrew, do you have any thoughts on the use of water
glass to store eggs ? ”
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basically you are just sealing the egg shells, you still get fermentation in the egg, refrigeration obviates the need to get into that sort of complexity !
do they deserve 84,000 words or do the 84,000 words
deserve them ?
just endless buffoonery from an idiot ! : o )
just endless buffoonery from an idiot ! :o)
just endless buffoonery from an idiot ! :o)
mystic eyes , gleam
with their full red light
burning the sun
mystic eyes , gleam
with their full red light
burning the sun
mystic eyes, gleam
with their full red light
burning the sun
mystic eyes, gleam
with their full red light
burning the sun
two translations of a verse [
I II ] in charles baudelaire's poem
the living flame
“ beautiful eyes that gleam with mystic light
as candles lighted at full noon; the sun
dims not your flame phantastical and bright ”
“ bewitching eyes, you shine like mystical candles
that burn in broad daylight; the sun
reddens, but does not quench their eerie flame ”
my
reply/reworking
mystic eyes, gleam
with their full red light
burning the sun
ewk writes
people pray for the god's love all the time
same thing
( ed. of the sesshin blues stanza below ! )
my
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isn't tea god's love ?
ewk replies
no
it's a tool using thing
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“
graffiti in an american zen monastery bathroom, long ago :
sesshin blues
dogs howl
people cry
wanna find out what IT is
before I die ”
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howling sogs
crying seeple
the It disappears
to
be
replaced
by
eeple ! :
o
)
OR
crying sogs
howling seeple
the It disappears
to
be
replaced
by
eeple/feeple ? ! :
o
)
note to clickstation : the way this is spaced is very much part of the meaning/nonmeaning ! :o)
kaneckt replies
sure. I get it
it's “ cognitive defusion ”
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damn howling sogs nipping at my kneels ! :o(
you guys are totally out of your scones taking a fictitious character like buddha whose historical antecedents are actually that of a tree shrine god and treating him like an historical person
his character and the way the world treats him are totally inconsistent with any sort of reality except maudlin unreal bullshit !
he's a dumbarse pompous stupid ass, could be posting on reddit zen actually ! ! ! . . : o )
you guys are totally out of your scones taking a fictitious character like buddha whose historical antecedents are actually that of a tree shrine god and treating him like an historical person
his character and the way the world treats him are totally inconsistent with any sort of reality except maudlin unreal bullshit !
he's a dumbarse pompous stupid ass, could be posting on reddit zen actually !!! . . : o )
you guys are totally out of your scones taking a fictitious character like buddha whose historical antecedents are actually that of a tree shrine god and treating him like an historical person
his character and the way the world treats him are totally inconsistent with any sort of reality except maudlin unreal bullshit !
he's a dumbarse pompous stupid ass, could be posting on reddit zen actually !!! . . : o )
you can speak garbage or you can make sense, too tough a choice for some !
you can speak garbage or you can make sense, too tough a choice for some !
you can speak garbage or you can make sense, too tough a choice for some !
you can speak garbage or you can make sense in english , too tough a choice for some !
you can speak garbage or you can make sense in English, too tough a choice for some !
you can speak garbage or you can make sense in English, too tough a choice for some !
zen is actually closer to Russian orthodox than buddhism !
ewk tells me/writes
you claim to have visions in which Huineng anoints you with magical robes
my
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the empress wu has the robes ! :o(
pickledstupid asks
do you look through everyone's posts and judge them patriarch sir ?
my
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who is judging ? you just object to wit, intelligence and discernment in a reply !
when the net first came into being people used to have brains, then the working class got on board and it never recovered !
:o (
for those who don't understand histories are an important part of the way reddit functions, it very intentionally keeps a person's posts exposed so that people understand what they write is in the public domain and also to give a continuity of what a person writes and who they are, I certainly would like people to read through my history ! :o)
pickledstupid replies
no objections. seems creepy and unzenlike though
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you mean you are creepy and unzenlike ?
zen is not hidden secret selves, that is schizophrenia and personality disorder, rather zen is about being ourselves warts and all and not being afraid to
show it !
in fact this transparency and public versus private unity of who we are
is almost the basic essential skill of zen !
we need to be who we appear we are which is a skill that I think this aspect of reddit zen can develop !
pickledstupid replies
just seemed out of context, but you're not really wrong I guess
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you are upset that celibacy is really the highway for ch'an/ or zen, you suburban zennists want it all, family, love, a quiet whiskey and cigar or pot and lsd when you can get it . . :o)
pickledstupid replies
not at all. don't think celibacy is necessary, but it has it's merits in regards to zen. depends on where you are and where you're going
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see what I mean, stuck in hubris and unable to leave your viewpoint !
you have no real life experience of anything and zen is just some nice patina to wank to !
is zen Buddhism ?
I notice that songhill and ewk are at it again, this eternal chestnut ! . . . : o)
let me put it this way, I don't think that either Buddhism or zen are particularly meaningful, nonsense terms really . . .
r/zen has that side of it right at least . . .
:o)
now the reason is the cultural context which religions traditionally had were highly coercive, the extreme of the inquisition in christianity and the “ convert or be killed ” of islam
but even in societies where several religions were permitted, there are still very strong coercive features, like you need to be clearly a member of a certain group like a zen or cha'n monk to receive the support of that group . . . !
group living was a necessity, you needed the security from brigands and tigers, the economies of scale growing and preparing food, no refrigerators . . . t h e n . . . f o r s u r e . . ! . . . care when ill
now what is different about today is one can be interested in what religion might be about, yet have no necessity of receiving any support from a group
you don't have to subscribe to any beliefs to survive
really the whole question of what zen is, let alone whether zen is buddhism are archiac and not meaningful which of course is why songhill and ewk, those antediluvian dinosaurs argue the point
it is simply that we are no longer in a medieval context and what they are
is no longer m e a n g I n g f u l . . . .
note: clicksation spacing u n a p p r o v e d ! . . . ! . . : o (
a word salad doesn't mean anything , poetry does !
a word salad doesn't mean anything , poetry does !
a word salad doesn't mean anything, poetry does !
a word salad doesn't mean anything, poetry does !
a word salad doesn't mean anything, poetry does
a word salad doesn't mean anything, poetry does
what he had seen we cannot ween
for the poem was nothing
but
“ there is no history of mental illness in the zen lineage ”
all the patriarchs were mentally ill, not so much amongst the masters ! :o)
bodidharma was the classic it's easy to see he was mentally ill !
you see you (ed. ewk) are hiding in the imagined safety of comfort of “ normative reality ” but the human condition is mentally ill . . .
I think that's where celibacy steers away from suburban zen/married with kids
you can live and address that actual insanity without your partner /spouse /children / parents signing your papers to consign you to a psych ward ! . . .
I think people take the wrong lessons from layman pang's life which are really about the disaster of mixing zen and suburban life, how many are not going to come apart over their children committing suicide ?
perhaps you have a child ewk, that is the point about which you pivot, I am childless and free in that respect, the world's griefs pass me by . . . ! : o)
“ there is no history of mental illness in the zen lineage ”
all the patriarchs were mentally ill, not so much amongst the masters ! :o)
your world (ed. xd-- ) is one of instant knowledge and that which is not which is everything is always beyond you !
for this reason, you walk, drip and breathe voynich which is really just a lack of application and work and being seduced by the fluorescent candy of spirally wound idiots ! : o ( )
your world (ed. xd-- ) is one of instant knowledge and that which is not which is everything is always beyond you !
for this reason, you walk, drip and breathe voynich which is really just a lack of application and work and being seduced by the fluorescent candy of spirally wound idiots ! : o ()
your world (ed. xd-- ) is one of instant knowledge and that which is not which is everything is always beyond you !
for this reason, you walk, drip and breathe voynich which is really just a lack of application and work and being seduced by the fluorescent candy of spirally wound idiots ! :o()
your world (ed. xd-- ) is one of instant knowledge and that which is not which is everything is always beyond you !
for this reason, you walk, drip and breathe voynich which is really just a lack of application and work and being seduced by the fluorescent candy of spirally wound idiots ! :o()
yeah your world (ed. xd-- ) is one of instant knowledge and that which is not which is everything is always beyond you !
for this reason, you walk, drip and breathe voynich which is really just a lack of application and work and being seduced by the fluorescent candy of spirally wound idiots ! : o ( )
yeah your world (ed. xd-- ) is one of instant knowledge and that which is not which is everything is always beyond you !
for this reason, you walk, drip and breathe voynich which is really just a lack of application and work and being seduced by the fluorescent candy of spirally wound idiots ! : o ()
yeah your world (ed. xd-- ) is one of instant knowledge and that which is not which is everything is always beyond you !
for this reason, you walk, drip and breathe voynich which is really just a lack of application and work and being seduced by the fluorescent candy of spirally wound idiots ! :o()
yeah your world (ed. xd-- ) is one of instant knowledge and that which is not which is everything is always beyond you !
for this reason, you walk, drip and breathe voynich which is really just a lack of application and work and being seduced by the fluorescent candy of spirally wound idiots ! :o()
lol, you are a living representative of the ox head school ! :o)
ewk replies
disagree
or did huineng tell you that in your vision?
you never did say what language he was speaking
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the whole vision thing doesn't occur in the way you seem to imagine, it's really difficult to explain since I guess it is actually quantum, there is a lot that occurs that really you only have some sort of remembrance that it occurred
and then at some point you leave or are recreated in the conventional form of reality and are looking at what remains, how you are changed, some imprint
and heft of the beauty . . . m e m o r i e s . . .
you see very fundamentally that what we think of as reality and ourselves is some sort of flux in the obscuration of infinity . . .
this is a sort of super dynamic thing that your book reading is never going to touch and I am afraid will always leaving you choking on a s h es . . ! : o ( )
the weird thing is I thought this mind to mind transmission was absolute rot until it happened . . .
ewk replies
[...] leave huineng out of it though. the transmission he is talking about is not the quantum transmission that you've dropped
my
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well i'm the one that has mind to mind transmission with him not you !
you are severely hampered by your lack of real life zen experience, what is regarded as zen is in fact simply this mind to mind transmission, that is what zen is and not your version of exegesis of what the zen masters said !
in fact with the experience under your belt you can see references to it right through the literature !
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“ hampered by ‘ real life ’ experience ” (ed. ewk
incorrectly quotes me)
actually the lack of real life experience !
I think you are running in circles because of problems with insomnia, I have made my
suggestions , but you ignore that like everything else
I don't sleep that well and when I don't get enough sleep i just can't function . . .
I am sorta hyperlexic, a bit like dogen, I do nothing but read and write and am the most widely read person I know of b y a l o n g w a y . .
I don't buy into the “ zen is not words ” thing, but in reality the reading is a help and not instrumental as I had dai kensho at age 7 . . .
experience on this board has really shown me why the old masters got so exasperated with scripture quoting nits or book pushing nits like yourself
so bound up in some image of themselves they rot on floor
proclaiming how fragrant they are . . . !
(yes clickstation, delete this post for spaces between the fullstops you jerk ! )
ewk I don't know your circumstances but really I would suggest you set aside half an hour a day just sitting in a chair doing nothing, kneeling on the ground with your arms on a chair and face into it also works quite well
that contemplative space over a few years will build up to move you into a way more productive space, it's really just decompression and sorting things out and shuffling what and who we are around so something larger can enter ! ... : o )
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zen historically is all about those with schizophrenia who do and don't escape the condition . . .
I really don't understand why you (ed. ewk) put so much work into going in the wrong direction in the face of good and competent advice . .
you have just started in the wrong place and fallen into a trap that everyone falls into in zen, that's taking the voynich onboard as being real . .
well I make my recommendations and learn myself
that's the whole trick with this game, in fact I have never been strong on mediation, but in fact in my early days I went to a weekly zen sit and did sesshins and it obviously did something and later now I moved back to spending quiet hours every evening with the comp off . . .
you see the posts I make are an exploration rather than imposition of a viewpoint, that is you develop with the mutations engendered by writing the post (so in fact is a form of contemplative meditation in fact)
you are not defending a viewpoint, there is nothing to defend . . .
I know it might appear that I am defending views, but in reality it's different, small subtle changes are always occurring . .
when you are doing it for real and not playing they will occur pretty fast and significantly
those who don't make progress of course lack and are alienated from the fundamental insight that there is no self to protect at all and if some-one tramples all over your self esteem, then make that productive and send them a cheque ! :o)
your question shows you haven't researched it (ed. what the voynich manuscript is) in any depth !
xd-- replies
why bother?
my
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yeah your world is one of instant knowledge and that which is not which is everything is always beyond you !
for this reason, you walk, drip and breathe voynich which is really just a lack of application and work and being seduced by the fluorescent candy of spirally wound idiots ! :o()
the great-souled person sees even his own body in action as if it were someone else's, so how should he be disturbed by praise or blame?
“ there is nothing prior to words, there is nothing prior to sound,
there is nothing prior to the perceiver ”
words are prior to words, sound is prior to sound and the perceiver is prior to the perceiver !
portuga replies
such meaningless stuff
my
reply
I quite liked my reply, I think together the original quote and my offset add to something ! :o)
portuga replies
I can see you like your replies, but it does nothing for me, sorry
I mean I could say : “ there is no reply, no original quote,
nothing added, no zaddar ”
does this make me look deep and enlightened ?
my
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if you look at it, the quote and my reply, your reply and then my reply make a good alice in wonderland dialogue do you see?
you might be the cheshire cat, the original quotee the mad hatter and I am
alice ! : o )
[8:20]
portuga replies by linking to a pic of the queen of hearts saying this role suits me better !
my
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you are of the land of the dead, but not happy with your role in it !
portuga replies
“ there is nothing prior to words, there is nothing prior to sound,
there is nothing prior to the perceiver ”
words are prior to words, sound is prior to sound and the perceiver is prior to the perceiver !
portuga replies
such meaningless stuff
my
reply
I quite liked my reply, I think together the original quote and my offset add to something ! :o)
“ there is nothing prior to words, there is nothing prior to sound,
there is nothing prior to the perceiver ”
words are prior to words, sound is prior to sound and the perceiver is prior to the perceiver !
from the zen teaching of huang-po
thus, there is sensual eating and wise eating
when the body...suffers the pangs of hunger and accordingly you provide it with food, but without greed, that is called wise eating
on the other hand, if you gluttonously delight in purity and flavor, you are permitting the distinctions which arise from wrong thinking
merely seeking to gratify the organ of taste without realizing when you have taken enough is called sensual eating
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in English what might he say is
“ you need to eat for nutritional value rather than taste ! ”
we/everybody face/s that choice all the time !
this is the whole thing about zen, between the recording, the translation and cultural subtleties everything is masked !
there seems to be hints of problems of periodic starvation and possibly over fancy donor food that we don't really have cultural correlates for !
the voynich manuscript is a lovely puzzle to figure out, who wrote it and why and actually I worked it out because of something I came across on the web that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere else and can date it fairly precisely, but will let the world catch up, it's uncertainty is part of the character of what it is ! :o)
artistic expression is really zen in action and not the endless twaddle about zen
in most real life zen you always find a strong emphasis on the arts, I guess the teachers get sick of the endless verbal drivel that reddit zen is such a good example of !
you treat a novel as real, you treat the real as a novel
B
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you treat a novel as real, you treat the real as a novel
B
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you treat a novel as real, you treat the real as a novel
B
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you treat a novel as real, you treat the real as a novel
B
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you treat a novel as real, you treat the real as a novel, B I Z A R R E !
you treat a novel as real, you treat the real as a novel, b i z a r r e !
hermes
trismegistus , that is the level of voynich ! : o ( )
a dull mind gets stuck on what breaks its boundaries ! :o(
dull minds get stuck on what breaks their boundaries ! :o(
twisted curves doesn't begin to describe these people !
dull minds get stuck on what breaks their boundaries ! :o(
I haven't done the research myself, but there appears to be a consensus of late tang/ ninth century for the writing of the mind inscriptions and possibly the platform sutra
there are in fact three “ mind inscriptions ”
“ these ox-head texts from dunhuang included two
prose works, the wuxin lun (discourse on no mind) and jueguan lun (discourse on cutting off perceptions) that had been lost for nearly a millenium.
by comparing the textual similarities between these prose texts, the three mind
inscriptions and the platform sutra, attributed to huineng, and by tracing references to these texts in other sources, yanagida seizan and other scholars concluded that all of these works were likely composed by unknown writers in the ox-head school towards the end of the ninth century ”
do you use a plastic or a stainless steel kettle for boiling water ! ?
i am sure that plastic kettles leach toxins out of the plastic, you can smell them when the kettle has boiled !
I was using one for a couple of weeks recently and I think it affected me, I was surprised !
do you use a plastic or a stainless steel kettle for boiling water ! ?
i am sure that plastic kettles leach toxins out of the plastic, you can smell them when the kettle has boiled !
xinxin ming or alice in wonderland ?
“ if you have something to say about faith in mind, OP it up ” - ewk
this is from several years ago
but actually just scrolling down
abit on that page to alice in wonderland 1966, I felt that was more meaningful ! :o)
ewk, your idea of visions is wrong, it's like being swept into something, a sort of infinitely wide intensity . . .
ewk replies
I don't have an idea of visions. what happened in your head is what happened in your head
I am pointing out that your claims about what happened in your head are just claims
my
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no, there's no head , just an infinite expanse ! :o)
this is what enlightenment is, that there is this infinite expanse and our closed worlds are just some phoney puppet play . . .
i think zen is both the seeing of one's going in circles and hopefully a movement out/away of that repetitive pattern . . .
do you think perhaps you (ed. ewk) are in a repetitive pattern ?
am i in a repetitive pattern ?
i think zen is both the seeing of one's going in circles and hopefully a movement out/away of that repetitive pattern . . .
do you think perhaps you (ed. ewk) are in a repetitive pattern?
am i in a repetitive pattern?
i think zen is both the seeing of one's going in circles and hopefully a movement out/away of that repetitive pattern . . .
do you think perhaps you (ed. ewk) are in a repetitive pattern?
seen plenty of people get eaten up by the zen system and spit out ten years later, damaged and discarded !
brad warner goes to tassajara every summer and all the viral exposure and wheat flour diet sends him bonkers . . .
green gulch definitely looks the best of the san francisco zen group, but basically the zen they teach really messes people, no matter how good one's head, you can't be good enough to avoid that sort of damage !
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ok. well the big thing I have noticed from staying at many centers is to keep your health !
now when I was travelling the vegetarian diet was much more intelligent than now and better balanced, now it just seems to be heaps of wheat flour based food which is not healthy !
soy is not really that great a food either
most people seem to understand this so to get more involved with the food side may be helpful/useful to you !
ewk writes
if the zaddar complaints are that bad, ban zaddar (ed. me !)
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ewk, for some reason , I feel that is hypocritical !
when you get enlightened, you will shed hypocrisy ! :o)
ewk writes
if the zaddar complaints are that bad, ban zaddar (ed. me !)
my
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ewk,nbsp;p; for some reason , I feel that is hypocritical !
when you get enlightened, you will shed hypocrisy ! :o)
ewk writes
if the zaddar complaints are that bad, ban zaddar (ed. me !)
my
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ewk, for some reason, I feel that is hypocritical !
when you get enlightened, you will shed hypocrisy ! :o)
r/zen is basically anti - artistic, dull clods who hate anything that makes them think so spacing is more instrumental than it might appear, the clods come down on what shows them up so they remove the ability to use it in an artistic fashion !
if you think this is being unfair to these people, just look at the very long posts covering pages and pages of arrant bullshit and junky meaningless quoting of whatever scripture and how this passes without any disapproval or complaints from the cretins !
spaces don't cost reddit a penny, what it does is upset the anti artistic psychology of those who post here and are in control and this is pretty normal for religious types, ice boxes, I am afraid ! :o(
once your eyes have been opened, you can't go backwards !
:
o
voynich is is exactly “ not truth ” as it is the construction of nonsense to give the appearance of truth !
123sheep123 writes
a weird state of mind during meditation
now I don't know how to explain this. I was focusing on my breath and noticed with some time that I was barely breathing until it felt like I'm not breathing at all. and all of the sudden I saw images
there were colourful mountains and some shapes I saw them not just as thoughts but like they were really there. I kept my attention to the breath during this and felt a great sense of peace
what happened?
my
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you had a genuine insight
it's really telling you something if you think about it, it may simply be that you should spend more time out in the mountains and natural surroundings in real life !
kikirus is a toxic nit (ed. advised him it was makyo) and a lot of the advice on r/meditation is bad ! :o)
it's best not to focus on the breath, but just observe and go with the flow of your thoughts !
123sheep123 replies
thanks man. yea somehow I have received some pms about this guy being not so helpful
hmm well I'm on vacation where I did lots of hiking in mountains. but I don't think it's to tell me something. it was just beautiful like from another world. the colours where so different. I have never seen anything like that
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thanx for your sensible reply ! :o)
just from my own experience is I don't do anything like enough of what you are doing, getting this beauty of another world ! :o)
carry tick tweezers though ! :o)
zen as per “ zen master ” zen is a voynichy blend of bullshit and mystical tradition equivalents that sets a ship sailing upriver and stuck forever on a mud bank when it should be out at sea !
zen as per “ the zen of the patriarchs ” is the unalloyed truth with omnipresent ships everywhere ! :o)
cherry petals
petals
blown
from
the
cherry
tree
twirling
like
butterflys
in
the
late
afternoon
sun
:
o
rather complimentary the notion of skywarn ! : o )
a disruption in the smooth skies of bullshit zen
rather complimentary the notion of skywarn ! : o )
a disruption in the smooth skies of bullshit zen
rather complimentary the notion of skywarn ! :o)
a disruption in the smooth skies of bullshit zen
rather complimentary the notion of skywarn ! :o)
a disruption in the smooth skies of bullshit zen
ewk tells me
“ you are the one who pretends to talk to huineng
don't you think lots of people have this fantasy ? ”
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lol, no, huineng, certainly not !
don't you see that the way you keep picking up on this means you actually regard it as having happening ?
you are more bothered about it than me and I really only mention it because it does make me the 7th patriarch so when I criticize what passes for zen these days it has the weight of the only authentically transmitted heir of the founder of zen !
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i hope you'll answer the following question and not do your usual disappearing trick when things mean you have to think abit, but do you regard my vision with huineng which i am saying is a real event, that is i and huineng were one for that moment in reality
that is such a thing cannot occur by your lights, or that such a thing might occur, but did not occur to me, for instance it could occur between you and say huang po at some future time ?
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well I believed huineng and it absolutely has shown itself to be truth !
what he said was
all things are a manifestation of the buddha dharma !
thanx for replying, it's interesting to see the edges between us drawn, you don't regard such a thing as being valid and also you don't regard what zen is about as having equivalents in other mystical traditions or writing and poetry !
ewk replies
there is no equivalent to the expanse of sky
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vast rolling sea.
beyond the clouds, blue empty sky.
clouds like ropes
coiling and winding
uncoiling unwinding
along and beyond
the blue empty sky
ewk replies
if you can say it, then it is not equivalent
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reply
cherry petals
petals
blown
from
the
cherry
tree
twirling
like
butterflys
in
the
evening
sun
:
o
i'm always looking where i'm wrong, that's part of the process of enlightenment, the other part is really testing stuff so it is objectively right and you are not constantly being cut back to the ground of stupidity like you's are ! : o )
you just think because you are too slack and never work anything out that there is no coherent structure and get your noses put out of joint when I come along with a/the coherent structure and show up your story quoting bullshit for what it is/bullshit
if you look at the old stories , it's not 10 zen masters talking to one monk, it's one zen master talking to many monks and they are in strong disagreement !
likewise today when you become enlightened the whole world will cause problems and disagree with you because the normative way of looking at things is so misguided
you cretins can vote with the normative and you do, and your empty shells will perpetuate forever but i have a different succour/sustennance and may its absence from your life, forever h u r t you ! :o)
it's easy to get anything authentic removed on reddit zen, my top posts have all been, in fact that is quite helpful cause when the fakes want it gone then it's a really great post !
the crud piles up around them , they want this and call their sickness zen ! :o)
“ if you are forty-nine years old, you were born closer to world war one than to the present ”
“ if you are 49 years old, you were born closer to world war 1 than to the present ”
look, i'll send you a
dollar if you can do the next reply coming from your own brain and not the endless nonsense you read !
real zen adepts have their own resources and don't regurgitate !
i'll send you a dollar if you can do the next reply coming from your own brain and not the endless nonsense you read !
real zen adepts have their own resources and don't regurgitate !
“ zen teachers train their young pupils to express themselves ”
in clichés to puke bullshit and try to squash down any creative or original expression !
I had forgotten all about fred !
(ed. on the hardcore zen blog)
small world isn't it, all the billions of people on the web . . .
fred is brain damaged from a lot of drug use and ewk is a chronic insomniac and can't think straight because of it . . .
everybody thinks the world revolves around them, one has to be careful not to get sucked into the vortex of the needs of others, especially stupid others like fred and ewk ! . . .
when i die, i'll be absorbed into the sunset, you won't find
me
when i die, i'll be absorbed into the sunset, you won't find me
the first lesson of zen is not to
exclude . . . .
you (ed. apathete) are upset by the power of what is written, it uncovers the sort of fakeness you idolize from a number of different bases
look you are just trying to enforce your own opinion here !
the adepts did not respond with denial !
:o)
you can act as proxy for ewk, one fake covering for another ! ! !
the records don't say the master commanded such and such a monk to shut up and leave did they
no they showed their mastery by pinning the error, well that gutei ewk
story has pinned your error and you don't like it !
the first lesson of zen is not to
exclude . . . .
you (ed. apathete) are upset by the power of what is
written , it uncovers the sort of fakeness you idolize from a number of different bases
the adepts did not respond with denial !
the first lesson of zen is not to exclude. . . .
you (ed. apathete) are upset by the power of what is
written , it uncovers the sort of fakeness you idolize from a number of different bases
the first lesson of zen is not to exclude. . . .
you are upset by the power of what is written, it uncovers the sort of fakeness you idolize from a number of different bases
“ if you were to ask the buddha one question what would it be? ”
am I as fictitious as you are ?
“ if you were to ask the buddha one question what would it be? ”
am I as fictitious as you are?
“ if you were to ask the buddha one question what would it be? ”
am I as fictitious as you are ?
“ if you were to ask the buddha one question what would it be? ”
am I as fictitious as you are?
“ if you were to ask the buddha one question what would it be? ”
am I as fictitious as you ?
“ if you were to ask the buddha one question what would it be? ”
am I as fictitious as you?
“ if you were to ask the buddha one question what would it be? ”
am I as fictitious as you ?
“ if you were to ask the buddha one question what would it be? ”
am I as fictitious as you?
I quite like wickedpriest's poem on the topic, prophetic as it happens ! . . .
when you put ewk together with rocky
things tend to get a little bit shlocky
but if you add clitstation
you've got the whole not-zen nation
& they can get rid of anybody who's mocky !
I never thought of ewk needing protection by the moderators, but actually he does, and his unreal fantasy is a product of that !
ewk wandered in some lonely mountains
ewk was wandering in some lonely mountains and came/chanced upon gutei's hermitage !
before he could utter a word gutei threw him to the ground and put his
finger up his arse !
he then raped him !
as ewk hobbled away gutei yelled after him “ serve you right ! ”
ewk was wandering in some lonely mountains and came/chanced upon gutei's hermitage !
before he could utter a word gutei threw him to the ground and put his
finger up his arse !
he then raped him !
as ewk hobbled away gutei yelled after him “ serve you right ! ”
ewk was wandering in some lonely mountains and came/chanced upon gutei's hermitage !
before he could utter a word gutei threw him to the ground and put his
finger up his arse !
he then raped him !
as ewk hobbled away gutei yelled “ serve you right ! ”
no coming, no going
no birth, no death
the great principle shines freely
and brillantly
in all ten directions
without a thing [of substance]
standing in its way
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coming and going
birth and death
a
frog croaks in a pond
:o)
the great principle is an illusion
the reddit zen corpses line the highway
crucified by their own
coming and going
birth and death
a
frog croaks in a pond
coming and going
birth and death
a
frog croaks in apond
coming and going
birth and death
a
coming and going
birth and death
a
meditation is not good (except maybe slouching in a chair !) when you have a virus because of the way you don't move at a time you need some movement to circulate the lymph !
full and half lotus is for retards...
zendos and real life zen are full of people with contagious health problems, keep well clear of them !
people use the medical viewpoint too readily for their health these days !
what is the characteristic of medicine ?
people are prepared to pay large sums
to get their health problems fixed
this implies two things
the first is that things have got bad enough to have got to this state and do you really want to be there if you can avoid it ?
secondly to get one problem ameliorated you have to accept penal side effect detriments in other areas ! ?
so to all you morons who push medicine as the only answer or correct way of doing things i hope the agonies that such an approach puts you though lasts a while ! :o)
seen it all reddit ask
docs , the stupids . . .
people use the medical viewpoint too readily for their health these days !
what is the characteristic of medicine ?
people are prepared to pay large sums to get a health problem/s fixed
this implies two things
the first is that things have got bad enough to have got to this state and do you really want to be there if you can avoid it ?
secondly to get one problem ameliorated you have to accept penal side effect detriments in other areas ! ?
so to all you morons who push medicine as the only answer or correct way of doing things i hope the agonies that such an approach puts you though lasts a while ! :o)
seen it all reddit ask
docs , the stupids . . .
people use the medical viewpoint too readily for their health these days !
what is the characteristic of medicine ?
people are prepared to pay large sums to get a health problem/s fixed
this implies two things
the first is that things have got bad enough to have got to this state and do you really want to be there if you can avoid it ?
secondly to get one problem ameliorated you have to accept penal side effect detriments in other areas ! ?
so to all you morons who push medicine as the only answer or correct way of doing things i hope the agonies that such an approach puts you though lasts a while
seen it all reddit ask
docs , the stupids . . .
between george gurdjieff and thomas de hartmann i think !
when you look at most of the ads on you tube, they are just narcissism which tells you alot about the “ so called ” creative talent and the idiots prepared to pay for them
when you look at most of the ads on you tube, they are just masturbation which tells you alot about the “ so called ” creative talent ! :o)
when you look at most of the ads on you tube, they are just masturbation . . .
when you look at most of the ads on you tube, they are just masturbation
zakaj reminisces :o)
I remember a long time ago I was in church ‑ don't remember the occasion ‑ and there was a jesuit priest preaching... I thought it would be boring like always in church, but it actually surprised me... it was quite good... he said : ‘ people want to have a personal god.... a god of bliss, a god they can manage, a god that gives meaning and purpose, a god that fixes your life, a god that stands by your side... but that's just your “personal god” (he spoke in italian, he used the term “pocket god” ) ... in truth, god is something you have to smash into... it's like a wall that you hit your head against, and it hurts... it's your limit... it's where you end ’
sepehr g. writes
I had a dream where han shan appeared after I gave a poem
and there was a bright effusing light
I woke up and used my hwadu, and had an out of body experience, or an impersonal third-person perspective of sorts, where time stopped or etc
it was weird and there was a massive headache
actually idk if han shan, could have been stonehouse
it was just a smiling monk btw after the poem
looked like han shan though
i was going to write down the poem but i was too sleepy
but it involved something about orioles, glistening petals flying to the moon, and pain
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that sounded like a really really good poem, you have to make the extra effort to write them down/catch them, pen and paper by the bed or a voice recorder !
or just plain getting up to write them down ! :o)
they really are a glimpse from a phantasmagorical and strange land ! :o)
extracts from the essay by osip mandelstam, dictated to his wife nadezhda about 1934/1935
conversation on dante
poetic speech is a crossbred process, and it consists of two sonorities
the first of these is the change that we hear and sense in the
very instruments of poetic speech, which arise in the process of its impulse
the second sonority is the speech proper . . . .
understood thus, poetry is not a part of nature . . . . still less is it
a reflection of nature, . . . but it is something that . . . settles down
in a new extraspatial field of action, not so much narrating nature as
acting it out by means of its instruments, which are commonly called images
in poetry only the executory understanding has any importance, and not the passive, the reproducing, the paraphrasing understanding
external explanatory imagery is incompatible with the practice of instruments
in luke's crucifixion scene, one of the robbers taunts jesus telling him to save himself and them because he is the messiah, but the other tells him to be quiet because jesus hasn't done anything to deserve this
the rebuking robber then asks jesus
lord remember me when you come into your kingdom
jesus replied
truely i tell you, today you will be with me in paradise
what jesus should have said is
we are both caught up in the wrong sort of death
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there's quite a good video here on the lack of
consistency between the gospels !
also this
video of Richard carrier is the best I have seen on understanding them, particularly the theme of inversion of effect from intention ! :o)
Richard carrier's
blistering critique of bart erhman's book
in luke's crucifixion scene, one of the robbers taunts jesus telling him to save himself and them because he is the messiah, but the other tells him to be quiet because jesus hasn't done anything to deserve this
the rebuking robber then asks jesus
lord remember me when you come into your kingdom
jesus replied
truely i tell you, today you will be with me in paradise
what jesus should have said is
we are both caught up in the wrong sort of death
the buddha is a mythological literary construct
jesus is a mythological literary construct
muhammad is a mythological literary construct
the 7th patriarch is real !
the buddha is a mythological literary construct
jesus is a mythological literary construct
muhammad is a mythological literary construct
the
7th
patriarch
is
real !
the buddha is a mythological fictional literary construct
jesus is a mythological fictional literary construct
muhammad is a mythological fictional literary construct
the 7th patriarch is real !
the buddha is a mythological fictional literary construct
jesus is a mythological fictional literary construct
muhammad is a mythological fictional literary construct
the
7th
patriarch
is
real !
andrew, god knows there is falsity in my heart
it's up to me to follow him authentically
and I will answer only to him, not to men
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isn't “ him” a man ?
any monasteries running retreats in slovenia?
this has been your problem all along, it's the sense of what god is that is missing though when you wrote that drunk poem you seemed on track !
it takes retreat and solitude, just getting away by yourself for a while would be helpful !
i'm finding it quite interesting that waiting at the end of time hasn't worked out for you
zakaj replies
indeed it hasn't worked
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for the first time you have said something open and exploratory !
engaging yourself and your life !
reddit zen is just endless closed books imposing their views, what a waste of time !
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I don't know ether this will make any sense to you, but you are getting all your info from crap artists, like for instance I can't reply on the /r/meditation because I am banned, in fact it censors anyone who stresses them by being correct ! :o)
it's all just nutcases playing and I think you have to see that in yourself because you have to some extent bought into it !
the 7th patriarch is unvarnished !
wlxr replies
a few of them are undoubtedly suffering from magical thinking
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magical thinking has it's place, but takes care to get right . . . .
the problem is only coming from one direction and not engaging a real process ! :o)
madness and sanity are always blurred in this process, one just wants to get the balance clearly right in a certain direction
I had a vision of redditzen receding from me and me waving good bye
even ewk waved . . . . ! :o)
let it go in it's entirely ! :o) . . . (
I had a vision of redditzen receding from me and me waving good bye
let it go in it's entirely ! :o) . . . (
dvd-rw drives have three motors in and represent a surprising source of potential power rail glitches and crowbarring during power outs so, since i hardly ever use it
, i leave it disconnected, it was connected when the loss of a file on my samsung 840 pro ssd (the only brand worth getting imo !) occurred !
your Christianity is the same as your Buddhism, isolated from reality ! :o)
a little koan for suicide bombers
do houri's have periods ?
a little koan for islamic militants
do houri's have periods ?
a little koan for islamacists
do houri's have periods ?
look, i'm not being nasty but 99.99% of people thinking they are doing zen never leave the road of the wrong direction ! : o )
look, i'm not being nasty but
99.99% of people thinking they are doing zen never leave the road of the wrong direction ! : o )
look, i'm not being nasty but
99.99% of people thinking they are doing zen never leave the road of the wrong direction ! :o)
my re-translation of lio sogi's poem number 660
autumn
a storm before daybreak
bushes bent touching the earth
having passed through
brightmoonlight
h y p e r eal
s o b e au t i ful, but how long can i stay in the cold
the first poem I wrote was one of my best, hopefully that is not the case with you (ed. oatgerm) ! :o)
vast rolling sea.
beyond the clouds, blue empty sky.
clouds like ropes
coiling and winding
uncoiling unwinding
along and beyond
scriptures, sculptures, minuets......................
the endless palaver.............................
what
goes
on
goes
on
to
the
G
R
A
V
E
:
o
(
)
scriptures, sculptures, minuets......................
the endless palaver.............................
what
goes
on
goes
on
to
the
G
R
A
V
scriptures, sculptures, minuets...................... the endless palaver.............................
what
goes
on
goes
on
to
the
G
R
A
V
scriptures, sculptures, minuets...................... the endless palaver.............................
what
goes
on
goes
on
to
the
G
R
A
V
people take what is a recorder's and translator's version of what is said as actually what was said, a good translation is somewhat close, maybe 20 to 30% , sometimes a superlative translation can hit a new spot that is way better than what was said, but the vast majority is purblindfoolishness of distorted nonsense that is simply what the recorders and translators wish was said ! :o)
bankei imo has very few if any good translations and records !
once you can see this, if you want freedom, there is a freedom in seeing all the blind game playing morons puke idiocy after endless idiocy of all this pseudo stuff, pretending there is some solid single person that said what is a very composite product !
kirkius replies
besides technicalities about the recording of bankei's words, have you got anything to say about my thought process I laid out in the original
post ?
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it's not technicalities, it just doesn't make sense !
it's the universal problem on these boards, a lack of appreciation of the problem of recursion in the question of “ allow all things to arise and cease as they will ” (ed. bankei quote)
do you see what I mean ! ?
I am sure what he said was something quite different, but not understandable to the recorder who made some change that made it understandable and so you get this inept stuff created . . .
you/people need to step out into the ununderstandable to be free . . .
basically there is no self, so the questions you have don't really arise, they are just an artifact from your way of looking at things !
meditation and I prefer the word contemplation is quite a cognitive process and not some “ abeyance of being ” that can be crafted out of brain plasticity by the maditative ghost cavers/nillists ! :o)
my re-translation of lio sogi's poem
autumn
a storm before daybreak
bushes bent touching the earth
having passed through
brightmoonlight
h y p e r eal
s o b e au t i ful, but how long can i stay in the cold
people take what is a recorder's and translator's version of what is said as actually what was said, a good translation is somewhat close, maybe 20 to 30% , sometimes a superlative translation can hit a new spot that is way better than what was said, but the vast majority is purblindfoolishness of distorted nonsense that is simply what the recorders and translators wish was said ! :o)
bankei imo has very few if any good translations and records !
once you can see this, if you want freedom, there is a freedom in seeing all the blind game playing morons puke idiocy after endless idiocy of all this pseudo stuff, pretending there is some solid single person that said what is a very composite product !
kodo sawaki is solipsistic, truth is individual and not communal
religions like Christianity (in-anity !) and buddhism are inherently voynichistic
that is confused and in their terms “ a living pit of death ” ! :o)(
actually i notice the new pope (francis) has some nervous condition, possibly parkinsons !
that'll teach him to go around kissing the diseased !
who knows maybe all the viral exposure of the pope “ loving the masses ” and all that sort of fake bullshit had an adverse impact on his health !
what an ill omened name to take as pope, you want to read about st. francis's health problems ! :o)
there's recent research which you can find on the web if you look
that really the effects of the inks is quite unhealthy !
1. tattoo inks contain heavy metals, carcinogens and nanoparticles
you are creating a permanent health problem/s for yourself !
2. tattoos are formed by an allergic/immune response by the body
if that doesn't tell you something what will?
3. my advice is just leave it at this point, not get any more done
good advice which I hope you will not ignore......... ! :o)
the problem with nanoparticles is they are so small they go into all the body cells
black is particularly bad for this
this is of public interest, so I hope it helps to make people aware
I got interested in the question because of the Russian prison tattoo problem, where they get covered top to toe and the apparently complete certainty of reoffending of these people and I thought that the actual tattooing messed their health in a way to make them much more likely to reoffend !
Russia and also I think yazuka and other “inclusive” criminal groups have a long history of tattooing and again I was wondering about the way the actual tattoos themselves could contribute to the criminality, which is often senseless ! :o)
a reddit comment by a new yorker ‘ born and raised ’
I wouldn't tolerate a woman who wouldn't throw a frying pan at my head if I started yelling instructions at her while she was trying to make me breakfast
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i'm from new Zealand, brought up in the country on a farm actually, this attitude to women would actually be somewhat typical of country areas in new Zealand, at least in the sixties back when I was a child !
life is absolutely unmovable , what's b e e n
life is absolutely unmovable, what's b e e n
life is absolutely unmovable, what's b e e n
well , you know , life's absolutely unmovable , what's b e e n
well, you know, life's absolutely unmovable, what's b e e n
well, you know, life's absolutely unmovable, what's b e e n
well, you know, life's absolutely unmovable, what's b e e n
well, you know, life's absolutely unmovable, what's been
life's absolutely unmovable, what's been
“ when I was
younger , I was talking to this other “ entity ” that felt like it flew into me
I was watching a cartoon
the entity then told me what is it I want
I told “ it ” I want to become a part of the cartoon
I then viewed myself from third person while watching myself become a stream of the narrative cartoon ”
the hard thing is to bring a 2D life into 3D ! :o)(
the hard thing is to bring a 2D life into 3D ! : o ) (
the hard thing is to bring a 2D life into 3D ! :o)(
the hard thing is to bring a 2D life into 3D ! :o)(
there is an inherent sadness into coming into a skill so late in life
ed. myself with writing !
there is an inherent sadness into coming into a skill so late in life
ed. myself with writing !
there is an inherent sadness into coming into a skill so late in life
ed. myself with writing !
there is an inherent sadness into coming into a skill so late in life
ed. myself in writing !
there is an inherent sadness into coming into a skill so late in life
ed. myself on writing !
there is an inherent sadness into coming into a skill so late in life
success smooths the way, but nothing matures like failure . . . : o(
success smooths the way, but nothing matures like failure . . . : o(
success smooths the way
but
nothing
matures
like
failure
.
.
.
:
o
success smooths the way
but
nothing
matures
like
failure
.
.
.
:
o
sepehr g. writes and asks
Were any of these a Kensho experience or close to it ? :
When I was younger, I was talking to this other "entity" that felt like it flew into me. I was watching a cartoon. The entity then told me what is it I want. I told "it" I want to become a part of the cartoon. "I" then viewed myself from third person while watching myself become a stream of the narrative cartoon
Also another : I (can't really say I cause it felt as if the "I" was dissipating) had a strange experience about 12-18 months ago. While talking to my girlfriend about the evolutionary phylogeny and the extinction of the Homo floresiensis through wars with Homo sapiens, I started thinking intently about where 'my' mind fit into all of this and whether this mind can be said to either arise or cease or neither. My thoughts started to subside as I started to give up on the intellectual speculation, and my girlfriend then came and told me goodnight over the lamp. She turned the light off and then she turned it back on afterwards to tell me something. She then turned it back off. All of a sudden the distinction between light and dark started fading away as I stared into the dim moonlight between the curtains, and "I" felt as if I was forgetting my name and all the concepts + memories associated with it. I got scared and thought, "I don't want to forget my name!" because I felt as if I was being pulled away to experience things from an impersonal perspective without dimension. I do not know if this is considered kensho, but if it was, I technically ran away. I know I shouldn't attach myself to the memory of such an experience, for the formulated concept or imagined symbol could serve as a barrier or prompt expectations. Also, I wrote ten verses afterwards which I won't post
I had a very sad dream once where I was in a mall. My friend's mom told us to come out already. While walking outside, I became aware of dreaming. I then pointed to the horizon and lightning bolts came down. My friend asked, "What is that?" I explained to him he is simply a manifestation of my dream. He began asking, "Who am I then? What is the purpose of this?" I forgot my answer, but I said something to the effect of "it is as it is" or "i am that, that i am" or so. He then was crying and the dream ended while he continued to cry
I have had a similar dream where I fell in love once, and while waking up, I was told not to seek my loved one. However, in another dream I sought her, and found a malformed entity that had attributes of her mixed with others...
I also had a dream once where I saw my body shaking in third person. Then I saw lines appear and felt a movement into another space. I then saw something akin to a surgeon asking if I'm awake yet. I saw the lines appear once more, and there was this blinding light... I felt as if I was being pulled into it, and I started thinking, "Who am I? ... I don't want to forget who I am!" and woke up sweating
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“ I do not know if this is considered kensho, but if it was, I technically ran away ”
yeah those experiences are all very insightful, but as you point out you are not taking the lessons on board !
no cartoons or anime, it is wonderful to spend time out in the moonlight . . .
excellent post, much appreciated thanx ! :o)
the problem with reddit zen (and reddit generally ! ) is the same as with everything else, getting a good return for the time spent
since they (the moderators !) now are able to enforce their removal of spaces in my posts with a bot, this has sabotaged the bedrock benefit i always got which was the writing !
so one thing has passed and others show up !
if i can mention the principal problem that people on reddit zen show and that is using the writing and posting to reinforce and develop ideas that are faulty through lack of testing, so they just continue to wander down their own roads . . . .
because reddit is so large, you can actually get quite/good value just reading it without posting, any posting always seems to bring several morons hot on your tail for violating some deeply held nonsense they have haphazardly cultivated ! :o)
the problem with reddit zen is (and reddit generally ! ) the same as with everything else, getting a good return for the time spent
since they (the moderators !) now are able to enforce their removal of spaces in my posts with a bot, this has sabotaged the bedrock benefit i always got which was the writing !
so one thing has passed and others show up !
if i can mention the principal problem that people on reddit zen show and that is using the writing and posting to reinforce and develop ideas that are faulty through lack of testing, so they just continue to wander down their own roads . . . .
because reddit is so large, you can actually get quite/good value just reading it without posting, any posting always seems to bring several morons hot on your tail for violating some deeply held nonsense they have haphazardly cultivated ! :o)
it takes a reasonable person to lose an argument, because they have to look at what they don't want to see as well as what they want to see !
it takes a reasonable person to lose an argument, because they have to look at what they don't want to see as well as what they want to see !
it takes a reasonable person to lose an argument, because they have to look at what they don't want to see as well as what they want to see
the unplatable truths about enlightenment
1. it's a lifetime process
2. its almost impossible to do with a suburban life
3. you can commit suicide, become terminally ill, lame, chronically fatigued, disabled, bankrupt and a whole host of other horrors during it
4. you really need to have had dia kensho as a child
5. the viewpoint is so different it is unrealistic to expect anything except ridicule and disapproval from others
6. it has a depth of intrinsic unhappyness and depression that is hardly liveable
7. you may feel in the end it has not been worthwhile..............................
a poem from “ just living : poems and prose of the japanese monk tonna ”
the wilting flower
in the heart
of one whose love
has died and gone
in the end fades utterly -
“ inquiry ” starts with self - honesty ! :o)
inquiry starts with self - honesty ! :o)
inquiry starts with self - honesty !
inquiry starts with self - honesty
there's too much UVA in tanning beds, very stupid energy spectrums, it could be done a lot more intelligently, but the real premise of the safer use of UV lamps is you don't want to tan at all !
“ you only need ~ 4 minutes of incidental exposure to natural light on the surface area roughly equivalent to the back of your hand to keep you healthy ”
in a lot of sun conditions even with a fair skin that would only give you 100 - 200 iu !
lol, I am in australia, what you (ed. Canada) call sun we wouldn't : o)
there's a new
view emerging that the sulphation of cholesterol and vitamin D which only the sun gives is important for cardiovascular, immune and immunosuppressive health !
king_spence310 writes
yosemite (ed. yoh - SEM - it - ee ) at any time of the year is beautiful
but on this particular night there was a lot of fog in the air and haze from the recent fire
so this photo this is a mixture of that fog and haze
mixed in with the moonlight and the atmosphere had a really mystical feel to it !
this is a single exposure
I'm lazy and like to avoid blending together multiple images if possible
I exposed for the sky and lifted the shadows in post
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nothing is photoshopped
all I did was add contrast, noise reduction, and a few small tweaks
this is almost straight out of the camera, the raw unedited image is just below
(above photo) nikon d600 (full frame dslr) , rokinon 14mm lens, ISO 2000 f/5.6
there's significantly less vignetting with this lens when you stop it down a bit
the flaring is due to the lenses diaphragm, not because it's overexposed. to my eye the scene was almost black and white, didn't look that nice. I could barely make out the outlines of el cap and bridalveil falls
believe it or not though, this is what my camera saw with a thirty second exposure. I did basic things like add contrast, vibrance, noise reduction, etc. since RAW images look like crap but I didn't do too much editing to it : o )
the photo below is about as close as i am likely to get to yosemite, day or night ! :o)
you took the blue pill and want the insight of the red pill, why make it my problem ?
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you took the blue pill and want the insight of the red pill, why make it my problem ?
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methexis
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you're not answering the questions.
does ingesting the red pill authorize one to ignore social norms & common decency ?
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you might have a problem with western freedom of expression since in your country for many generations and certainly even to an important extent now it was/is dangerous to speak your mind !
plus there's no woman beating my diction into shape !
the old ch'an masters spoke freely . . . . .
you are trivializing dissident eastern block writers during what was effectively a Russian occupation !
the degree to which you all had to live with “doublethink” and “double speak”
like jesus in the temple I rout out that sort of trash ! :o)
i'm quite ok with calling retards retards since you have asked ! :o)
if this guy is claiming to do zen then he shouldn't energetically attempt to con, though he only really succeeds with himself
these guys are swindling con artists, can you see where I am coming from !
you took the blue pill and want the insight of the red pill, why make it my problem ?
you took the blue pill and want the insight of the red pill, why make it my problem ?
you (ed. methexis) just believe in nembutsu anesthetics !
you (ed. methexis) just believe in nembutsu anesthetics !
you just believe in nembutsu anesthetics !
you (ed. prunck) can't hear good advice
and only hear your own hubris !
you are intelligent enough to know consequences, a self important idiot like yourself making your own stupid grave doesn't bother me ! :o)
buddha is some wanking fairy tale, syliva plath was a real person who did real work and created quality poetry.....................
the
first words of some
wanking reply from prunck
I don't consider myself important [..]
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it's a lifetime's hard work to understand, play here on reddit zen and be forever stuck in some stupid mud mixed with your own blood
you consider yourself important enough to impose your views on
someone with real and not pretend experience and waste their time. . . .
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lifetime understand experience . . . what sort of truth do you think it is that is bound by time, understandings, and illusions?
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lifetime understand experience . . .
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prunck replies
sylvia plath died when she was younger than I am now. by suicide, sticking her head in an oven. this sounds like someone who has realized the ultimate truth. tell me again about these lifetimes of experiences...
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abandoned by her husband, with two young children she couldn't take care of, very little money, chronically insomniac and on an extremely toxic old style anti-depressant
zen mastery is not about going through life successfully, but getting the “ fix ” of infinity and understanding what it is all a b o u t
she was boston middle class and proxied health problems to medicine in a way that was destructive to her
the marriage and children killed her tho
both of which I am sure I would have not survived either....
the real zen is celibate and mixing it with suburban life creates an a b o r t I o n
an extract from another wanking reply by prunck
[...] you still haven't told me what this “ real zen ” is
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you have overfocused in terms of creating a simple question expecting a simple answer !
I say it's a lifetime's work, but you are not hearing . . .
you really cannot grasp what is involved
I have heaps of writing
perhaps I should be sorry to disturb the stupidity of your wanking reddit zen “ pretend ” equilibrium . . . !
you (ed. prunck) can't hear good advice and only hear your own hubris !
you are intelligent enough to know consequences a self important idiot like yourself making your own stupid grave doesn't bother me ! :o)
buddha is some wanking fairy tale, syliva plath was a real person who did real work and created quality poetry.....................
you can't hear good advice and only hear your own hubris !
you can't hear good advice and only hear your own hubris !
you can't hear good advice and only hear your own hubris
your problem is what I write is enlightened and you can't handle it !
why people call walking in the opposite direction to what zen is really about, I don't know, but they seem to f o r e v e r . . . :o(
basically you are anti artistic, anti literary and just deep in some sort of brain fuck that seems to suit your particular type of s t u p I d I t y . . . : o ( )
“ a special transmission outside the scriptures
not founded upon words and letters
by pointing directly to mind
it lets one see into nature and attain buddhahood
indeed, it is a special transmission outside the scriptures
( taoism, vedism, sarvastivada, and mahayana ) ”
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it's outside any scripture
becoming dissolving
dissolution
resodissolution . . .
iwk replies
NOToutside !
it
is
the
scripture . . .
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:o)
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I had dai kensho at about age 7 , knowing nothing of Buddhism and nothing of a religious nature except what people might call god . . . .
where is the scripture in that ?
“ a special transmission outside the scriptures
not founded upon words and letters
by pointing directly to mind
it lets one see into nature and attain buddhahood
indeed, it is a special transmission outside the scriptures
( taoism, vedism, sarvastivada, and mahayana ) ”
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it's outside any scripture
becoming dissolving
dissolution
resodissolution . . .
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“ a special transmission outside the scriptures
not founded upon words and letters
by pointing directly to mind
it lets one see into nature and attain buddhahood
indeed, it is a special transmission outside the scriptures
( taoism, vedism, sarvastivada, and mahayana ) ”
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it's outside any scripture
becoming dissolving
dissolution
resodissolution . . .
:
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“ a special transmission outside the scriptures
not founded upon words and letters
by pointing directly to mind
it lets one see into nature and attain buddhahood
indeed, it is a special transmission outside the scriptures
( taoism, vedism, sarvastivada, and mahayana ) ”
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it's outside any scripture
becoming dissolving
dissolution
resodissolution . . .
:
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what i'm saying is that you (ed. prunk) are really writing total voynich, you don't have an understanding, you have and are going a long way in the wrong direction and with serious retreat and contemplative experience under your belt you would not be making this mistake !
Then explain it to me. I might not have put on a robe and sat in full lotus for an entire week, but don't make the mistake of thinking I haven't contemplated.
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what I am talking about is the simplest possible thing. I don't know why you want to believe it is so far off and lofty. it is right here, staring at itself from both directions, encompassing all because it contains nothing of it's own, being totally alive and defying any attempts to define it. I don't understand why you think there is something else, or what you think that else could possibly be. anything you try to pin to it falls to the ground. any word you call it slanders it. any directions to it miss it entirely.
why are you not content to simply be the infinity you are searching for?
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this is called “living in a ghost cave” and has other names and is constantly criticized by the real zen masters !
you have none of the footprints of the real thing, you are just regurgitating, the real thing is original !
the usual mistake is to read junk, I presume that's your problem !
what i'm saying is that you (ed. prunk) are really writing total voynich, you don't have an understanding, you have and are going a long way in the wrong direction and with serious retreat and contemplative experience under your belt you would not be making this mistake !
if you are putting your weight in the beliefs of others .............. . . . :
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if you are putting your weight in the beliefs of others .............. . . . :
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if you are putting your weight in the beliefs of others .............. . . . :
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if you are putting your weight in the beliefs of others .............. . . . :
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if you are putting your weight in the beliefs of others .............. . . .
if you are putting your weight in the beliefs of others
these words are the absolute in
identity btw !
it's the incoherent retards that hide themselves “ nillist ” zen ! : o (
by their lights it's clichés that rule and original expressions of infinity are not permitted ! : o (
these words are the absolute in
identity btw !
it's the incoherent retards that hide themselves “ nillist ” zen ! :o(
by their lights it's clichés that rule and original expressions of infinity are not permitted ! :o(
shark skin soup is basically collagen,
cheaper ways of getting it
than £90 for a bowl of soup !
your brain was made in jelly molds ?
your brain was made in jelly molds ?
genuine visions are the ultimate truth
they don't cross reference, that's the beauty of it ! :o)
visions are the ultimate truth
they don't cross reference, that's the beauty of it ! :o)
genuine visions are the ultimate truth, they don't cross reference, that's the beauty of it ! :o)
visions are the ultimate truth, they don't cross reference, that's the beauty of it ! :o)
genuine visions are the ultimate truth, they don't cross reference, that's the beauty of it !
visions are the ultimate truth, they don't cross reference, that's the beauty of it !
genuine visions are the ultimate truth, they don't cross reference, that's the beauty of it
visions are the ultimate truth, they don't cross reference, that's the beauty of it
ewk replies
nope
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he hangs himself on the rope of n o p e ! : o )
he hangs himself on the rope of n o p e ! : o )
he hangs himself on the rope of n o p e !
he hangs himself on the rope of n o p e
when r u going to become a zen master ewk ?
puking the remanants of someone else's vomit is not zen ! : o (
when r u going to become a zen master ewk?
puking the remanants of someone else's vomit is not zen ! : o (
when r u going to become a zen master ewk?
puking the remanants of someone else's vomit is not zen ! :o(
when r u going to become a zen master ewk?
puking the remanants of someone else's vomit is not zen ! :o(
a sudden/dia kensho experience usually takes ten to 50 years to work through, my personal best is about four years and that was quite recently
if you look at it that way the whole thing becomes quite abit more sane !
it may be they n e v e r r e s o l v e
if you have an enlightenment experience you immediately have a huge problem, you are now an alien on a strange predatory planet . .
ask yourself if you can accommodate that shift, in my judgment you can't so as I say . . .
vorlondel replies
which is why I say why bother?
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yeah it's like love for infinity rather than human. . . .
that's
the
alien
part
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people
do
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understand
99% of the religious stuff is bullshit with the exception of indian which is 99.99%
vorlondel asks
how do I get enlightenment right now?
like right now right now, not after-years-of-meditation right now
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I think the notion of reincarnation was invented for people like you, obviously you are never going to be enlightened in your lifetime, so it was a way of giving hope ! :o)(
I was thinking the last substantial “ vision ” I had was infinity as a heath robinson machine
that was like a major event too and was four years ago, which was sixteen years after the
“ 6th patriarch event ”
and about 49 years after seeing the sky/clouds fold in as god.........
maybe it will happen again before I die I don't know.........
with the heath robinson machine vision came the gift to re-align half arsed religious waffle, like the blue cliff record cases, into the true words of infinity
ewk replies
next time you pick somebody to speak for, go with aleister crowley
you'll fit right in with that crowd and make a packet
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I never chose, my choices can be really bizarre, might have gone with Sappho ! :o)
these visions are one of the mystical high points, the direct identity/communication of god? or the absolute.................
I can't convince you of an experience outside your blinkers ! :o)
I was thinking the last substantial vision I had was infinity
as a heath robinson machine
that was like a major event too and was four years ago, which was sixteen years after the
6th patriarch event
and about 49 years after seeing the sky/clouds fold in as god.........
maybe it will happen again before I die I don't know.........
with the heath robinson machine
vision came the gift to re-align half arsed religious waffle, like the blue cliff record cases, into the true words of infinity
I was thinking the last substantial vision I had was infinity as a heath robinson machine
that was like a major event too and was four years ago, which was sixteen years after the
6th patriarch event
and about 49 years after seeing the sky/clouds fold in as god.........
maybe it will happen again before I die I don't know.........
with the heath robinson machine
vision came the gift to re-align half arsed religious waffle, like the blue cliff record cases, into the true words of infinity
I was thinking the last substantial “ vision ” I had was infinity as a heath robinson machine
that was like a major event too and was four years ago, which was sixteen years after the
“ 6th patriarch event ”
and about 49 years after seeing the sky/clouds fold in as god.........
maybe it will happen again before I die I don't know.........
with the heath robinson machine
vision came the gift to re-align half arsed religious waffle, like the blue cliff record cases, into the true words of infinity
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dota2nub writes
hey, just checking in with you : o )
I'm doing a bit better, but it's a slow process. but things have started to change. I have enough energy now to care about what I eat and I realized I was craving sugar and carbohydrates all the time. I've done some research and quickly realized what was going on. heh, and there I always wondered why I was never getting fat or gaining any weight whatsoever
I've done quite a bit of research and to my surprise I've arrived at a lot of the same conclusions you have on your compendium site (which I still think is horrible to navigate, but hey, if that's your thing :P ) - candida and bad gut bugs have been eating my stuff ! I immediately changed my diet
Now the only thing I'm not doing that you're saying I should do is that I'm still eating some honey, which I put into my probiotic yogurt and kefir. otherwise no sugar, grains, potatoes or sweet potatoes, as you say, Otherwise lots of coconut oil, red and poultry meat, and green vegetables with a few slices of carrots (though not too much of those)
Since you say I should also avoid honey and that kind of makes sense to me (it kind of seemed weird that it was allowed on the gaps diet, which I was following) I'm going to be doing that next. I think I've done a good job at tapering myself off the sugars and carbs already, since my cravings for them are much lessened even after just a few days of this, though in the first one or two days I felt so weak I almost fainted (I think it was a good thing to keep the honey in in the beginning so I didn't crash completely)
I still don't quite buy into your mercury poisoning ideas though. I don't think that's my problem. I almost never eat fish or seafood (let's say once every 3-6 months? , don't have mercury fillings and don't see where else the stuff could come from. I think for me it all dates back to when I was 12 and had an extreme crash of my whole metabolism. I was barely alive and pumped full of antibiotics at the hospital for a long time. all my organs went to shit (though they've recovered as far as I can tell) and I'm sure my gut flora which wasn't healthy to begin with (never been breastfed because of the Chernobyl thing happening around when I was born) was completely obliterated
so now it's all about getting the harmful bugs out of there and the good bugs in. I'm feeling cautiously optimistic
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thanx for an informative and well thought out update ! :o)
that was bad luck about Chernobyl, I was only breastfed for a week and all I read is that the lack of beastfeeding makes for very poor control of the gut microbiome and strongly predisposes to forms of metabolic syndrome later in life !
so this is why the SCD/BCD suits you, fundamentally underneath all the problems is an inability to control the gut microbiome so as a basic principle it's best to have food that doesn't feed it ! :o)
I have never had commercial kefir, which I presume is what you are using, I grew my own (probably not very eptly :o) and it just about killed me, I think there is a problem with uncontrolled ecoli and other harmful bacteria and toxins in it, whether commercially grown kefir has the same problem I don't know, but kefir is a biofilm !
after many attempts to use honey, I gave it up as a bad job ! :o)
I have never had any mercury amalgam fillings either, I think the damage was done in the womb, my mother had very bad teeth ! :o (
the gaps diet is in fact half stolen from the SCD diet, but mixed with harmful fermented foods and is imo abit of an abortion ! :o)
ewk
writes of the
qlg section below this
this is some religion you made up, not zen.
you can fake or assume you see something, but when you start to teach it even you know you are pretending
that's why you hide from AMA
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“ what i see on reddit zen is people faking or assuming a jump through the bounce in this way when it hasn't occurred because seeing the transition abates our arrogance and imposition of our views on life, rather moving to an exploratory indeterminacy ! ”
ewk, since your position seems to be throwing up some voynich from the unenlightened yuanwu and then claim it is meaningful, the above quote is going to leave you rather out in the cold isn't it ?
you can want and act as tho zen is arrogance and imposition, but the perennial enquiry that it really is will still flourish and incorporate yourself as a part even tho you do not want it /are in denial ! :o)(
ewk replies
I guess we can't all claim to have had religious visions as the result of sitting meditation in which we were ordained by spirits claiming to represent ancient ancestors
if you believe what you claim, then do an AMA about it!
unless you think the skepticism and ridicule would shake your confidence? or is it that telling people the truth would mean nobody paid any attention to your spacing anymore?
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yeah, but the truth is I had mind to mind transmission with the 6th patriarch !
btw i was actually lying down at the time when it happened ! :o)
such a thing is within the compass of the real zen, but your fraudulent version has no room for it !
:o)
I have no barrow to push, but since it happened and this is a zen board why shouldn't I mention it as relevant !
:o)
from your unenlightened viewpoint such a thing cannot happen.............
in infinities comforting breast, everything that needs to occur can . . . :o)
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the only reason to do an AMA would be for publicity to facilitate some role as a teacher , basically as part of an effort to solicit donations, sell books and get retreatants
this road I have deliberately avoided as too destructive to one's health and sanity...............
some-one threatened to shoot toni packer once, brought out a pistol in an interview, who knows how that sort of thing can turn out............
: o)
ewk I think you are losing the plot a bit, you were more with it when I first joined this board, you seem to have lost touch with rational discussion...................
anybody can ask a question or state a viewpoint here, what AMA's do well at is bring people who don't have a reddit presence like for instance brad warner and make them available for questioning.........
unfortunately for brad he has very poor , like extremely poor general knowledge so did not come off well in his AMA : o)(
because you are not enlightened and have never really removed from your christian based “pushing the scriptures” approach, except you have decided that ECZL , particularly the blue cliff record are the scriptures that you push . . . . : o)
anyway because you are not enlightened and have no genuine insight you imagine that communally or socially accepted viewpoints are the basis for imagining whether something is true or not, but the true zen view is that social entities (like religions !) are inherently wrong, and you can see this with the master's “ dialogues ” with wilfully blind monks
the real truth of zen which is solipsistic is inherently oppositional to established human norms which is why the 6th patriarch was in danger of being killed/murdered for most of his life !
if you didn't “hate” me and would, if in your power attempt to destroy me, then what I say wouldn't be true !
if you think what I just wrote is not true, just walk away from the need to try to refute me and not post to me any more, you may try to do this as you have done previously, but like a moth to the lamp or ants to honey you are always drawn back for reasons you can't perceive
i really am not asking you to reply to me, I know your view of me, you know my view of you, reddit zen is not short of mad hubric idiots, why not save your attention for them ! :o)
are you (ed.ewk) in an institution for people with psychiatric problems ?
you really seem not to understand what is addressed you, like it goes straight past, ie schizophrenia !
i have a number of concerns about continuing to engage you, at this point i am not replying to you and ask that you don't to me !
if you reply further i will post this same reply !
i have offered my advice to you about
sleep !
loop quantum gravity
parallels [9 : 16] our reality and dai kensho, normally we live in the classical geometric space of general relativity where gravity is encoded in geometry
likewise with ( the patterns of ! ) life : o )
the point of zen and mysticism is to approach the condition of maximal finite density of the universe and bounce through the null point which is the godhead in meister eckhart terms or infinity in emily dickinson's and mine
this bounce we all do at significant points in our lives, but the dai kensho experience is to see the bounce in a way that is both null and not null, that is it is remembered and understood........................
this experience is extremely distinct and is the beginning rather than the end
what i see on reddit zen is people faking or assuming a jump through the bounce in this way when it hasn't occurred because seeing the transition abates our arrogance and imposition of our views on life, rather moving to an exploratory indeterminacy !
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“ a monk saw buddha in
hell ”
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buddha is more in hell than heaven ! : o ( . . . )
“ a monk saw buddha in
hell ”
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buddha is more in hell than heaven I notice ! :o(. . .)
“ a monk saw buddha in
hell ”
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he's more in hell than heaven I notice ! :o(. . .)
“ a monk saw buddha in
hell ”
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he's more in hell than heaven I notice ! :o(. . .)
the emergence of space time as excited states, as loop and spin network states
it is quantum theory and general relativity truely talking to each other
you can't blame the whole committee for the blackest of sheep
theuniverseincarnate asks
how big is the universe?
I personally think it extends spatially only from fingertip to fingertip and top of the head to toe
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it extends from one edge of a thought to another !
how
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b i g o r n o t s o b i g ?
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theuniverseincarnate asks
how big is the universe?
I personally think it extends spatially only from fingertip to fingertip and top of the head to toe
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it extends from one edge of a thought to another !
how
big
is
that
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theuniverseincarnate asks
how big is the universe?
I personally think it extends spatially only from fingertip to fingertip and top of the head to toe
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it extends from one edge of a thought to another !
how big is that !
cadence ( kdns ) noun
( ed. from the american heritage dictionary, fourth edition )
balanced, rhythmic flow, as of poetry or oratory
the measure or beat of movement, as in dancing or marching
a falling inflection of the voice, as at the end of a sentence
a general inflection or modulation of the voice
“ so do you see sylvia plath somewhat like judith kroll does as a priestess in search of absolute transcendence ? ”
I don't label her !
from the readers point of view it's the creative work that matters and it's also helpful to know the details and major events of her life
see the farce of zen is all the morons simply think they have to be zen somehow and in their stupid hubris think that is what it's all about, but in fact since what zen is about is infinity then it's the evidence that matters and that's the creative work................ we know these old zen masters by what are effective iconoclastic verbal minuets.. they really are art...............
but the zen morons just rehash bullshit thinking that since it is uttered by their mudbrained selves that is sufficient
the more modern masters that we know about like ryokan, hakuin, dogen and even bankei who sculptured is that it's their creative expression that has come down to us !
if there is no effective creative expression, you are not enlightened...............!
“ so do you see sylvia plath somewhat like judith kroll does as a priestess in search of absolute transcendence ? ”
I don't label her !
from the readers point of view it's the creative work that matters and it's also helpful to know the details and major events of her life
see the farce of zen is all the morons simply think they have to be zen somehow and in their stupid hubris think that is what it's all about, but in fact since what zen is about is infinity then it's the evidence that matters and that's the creative work................ we know these old zen masters by what are effective iconoclastic verbal minuets.. they really are art...............
but the zen morons just rehash bullshit thinking that since it is uttered by their mudbrained selves that is sufficient
the more modern masters that we know about like ryokan, hakuin, dogen and even bankei who sculptured is that it's their creative expression that has come down to us !
if there is no effective creative expression, you are not enlightened...............!
“ david holbrook found most of plath's poetry to be that of paranoid-schizoid delusions ”
my
reply
“ there are … certain poems in her oeuvre … which distort reality and follow such a sick logic that they must be declared
pathological
my task must be to try to demonstrate that these are psychotic and why : and to try to demonstrate how and why the poet fell victim to these tendencies ”
well I won't argue that he didn't have that viewpoint !
but the problem is dull mediocrities like himself forming a half arsed opinion like he has is the evidence of sylvia plath's genius, if you want to call it paranoid schizoid, that's just the narrow mindedness of the caller ! :o)
genius is always outside the boundaries, it's never going to look sane
tho Sylvia plath is in her way sorta conventional.............
the true sanity is the breaking of boundaries, the stepping outside of the enclosures of the mind into infinity.......................
“ david holbrook found most of plath's poetry to be that of paranoid-schizoid delusions ”
my
reply
“ there are … certain poems in her oeuvre … which distort reality and follow such a sick logic that they must be declared
pathological
my task must be to try to demonstrate that these are psychotic and why : and to try to demonstrate how and why the poet fell victim to these tendencies ”
well I won't argue that he didn't have that viewpoint !
but the problem is dull mediocrities like himself forming a half arsed opinion like he has is the evidence of sylvia plath's genius, if you want to call it paranoid schizoid, that's just the narrow mindedness of the caller ! :o)
genius is always outside the boundaries, it's never going to look sane
tho Sylvia plath is in her way sorta conventional.............
the true sanity is the breaking of boundaries, the stepping outside of the enclosures of the mind into infinity.......................
